Nueva Xbox

[Agustin Vanina]

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ahora, hay algo que me parece una VERGA en ambas consolas de ultima generacion (la 4 y la "one") y es simplemente el hecho de todo lo que apuestan a lo que es "compartir videos imagines blablabla" "skype violento mientras jugas etc" y me rompe soberanamente las bolas, tendria que ser 100% desconectable porque seria un VERGAZO estar jugando un resident evil o similar, bien metido en la atmosfera del juego y que te salga un BOLUDO por skype cagandose de risa porque vio como se caia un gato de un mostrador.
todo bien con el juego y la experiencia online, me he reido como nunca corriendo con el grupo de aca en el gt5...pero HASTA AHI.....no hace falta mas, no hace falta jugar y que te esten gritando...ese tipo de experiencias (jugar de a muchos a un juego de aventura) se hace mientras comes una pizza y terminas un silent hill.....no en modo online. cada dia apuestan mas y mas a que se juegue todo de a 1 y cada uno por su lado...dentro de poco para jugar al PES vas a tener que tener 2 teles y 2 play en tu casa.

[GTA89]

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Yo tengo la xbox 360 S, salio en el 2010, trae muchisimas mejoras con respecto a las anteriores, fue la ultima que salio al mercado en el año 2010.

Tenga la antiguedad que tenga hasta ahora es la mejor consola que hay, mejor que la ps3 lejos, y te lo dice cualquier que entienda o que se dedique a vender ambas, o que se dedique a flashear ambas, o que tenga ambas.

Obsoleta quedan las cosas de pc que cada 6 meses lo que tenes ya es viejo proque constantemente salen cosas mejores, en cambio la consola tiene 6 años como decis y vos para tirar un juego con la calidad que lo tira la consola tenes que hacer un parto con las pc, gastarte un dineral, y siempre sigue siendo una pc, la consola es justamente para video juegos, no quieras inventar nada. Cada horma a su zapato.

No te vas a cansar de mandar fruta loco?

[Pablo_scr]

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No te vas a cansar de mandar fruta loco?

No, algun problema? Si yo mando fruta entonces el 80% del foro mando fruta ya que me aconsejo comprar la xbox, al igual que los vendedores que venden ambas consolas.

[rodrygo47]

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No, algun problema? Si yo mando fruta entonces el 80% del foro mando fruta ya que me aconsejo comprar la xbox, al igual que los vendedores que venden ambas consolas.

Me parece que te lo decia por lo de "Yo tengo la xbox 360 S, salio en el 2010, trae muchisimas mejoras con respecto a las anteriores, fue la ultima que salio al mercado en el año 2010."

[Pablo_scr]

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Me parece que te lo decia por lo de "Yo tengo la xbox 360 S, salio en el 2010, trae muchisimas mejoras con respecto a las anteriores, fue la ultima que salio al mercado en el año 2010."

Pagina oficial, o mas facil aun, "wikipedia".

[soitombis]

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Next gen COD ghost

jajajaja

[GTA89]

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Pagina oficial, o mas facil aun, "wikipedia".

y seguís mandando fruta. NO SE LLAMA S, se llama SLIM y no, no se llama 720, se llama ONE.
Lo que no entiendo es que hace unos meses no tenias ni idea de lo que era una consola y hoy tenes un máster en ventas y video juegos. Si tenes ganas de discutir, lee un poco de que se trata, no saltes con los insultos genéricos de los ajenos a la tecnología.

[Pablo_scr]

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y seguís mandando fruta. NO SE LLAMA S, se llama SLIM y no, no se llama 720, se llama ONE.
Lo que no entiendo es que hace unos meses no tenias ni idea de lo que era una consola y hoy tenes un máster en ventas y video juegos. Si tenes ganas de discutir, lee un poco de que se trata, no saltes con los insultos genéricos de los ajenos a la tecnología.

La S justamente es de Slim. Yo mando fruta?

Hace un mes no tenia idea de las consolas, y hoy te puedo hablar de lo que sea con respecto a la xbox, desde lo que es el rgh y como se hace, hasta que programas tenes que instalar y como lo tenes que hacer para que levante los juegos. Te puedo enseñar a configurar el dash launch, el fsd o el xexmenu. Te puedo enseñar a convertir juegos y utilizar los programas necesarios com imgburn, isoextract o iso2god.hoy configure el fsd y los puertos para jugar online en sitios no oficiales. Asique no me digas que no entiendo como se usa la consola porque no es asi, hoy en dia hago lo que sea con la xbox.

Y no te cuelgues en discusiones ajenas.

[GTA89]

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La S justamente es de Slim. Yo mando fruta?

Hace un mes no tenia idea de las consolas, y hoy te puedo hablar de lo que sea con respecto a la xbox, desde lo que es el rgh y como se hace, hasta que programas tenes que instalar y como lo tenes que hacer para que levante los juegos. Te puedo enseñar a configurar el dash launch, el fsd o el xexmenu. Te puedo enseñar a convertir juegos y utilizar los programas necesarios com imgburn, isoextract o iso2god.hoy configure el fsd y los puertos para jugar online en sitios no oficiales. Asique no me digas que no entiendo como se usa la consola porque no es asi, hoy en dia hago lo que sea con la xbox.

Y no te cuelgues en discusiones ajenas.

jaja eso te lo enseño el que te la vendió también? Lee aprende de los demás y deja de desmerecer a los que te pegan paseos. OJO no te lo digo mal.

PD: foro publico, conversación publica. Cualquier cosa privada tenes los PM.

[leoscr]

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yo me lei las 5 pag. del tema y me qdo con la play sin dudas

[Pablo_scr]

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Eso lo aprendi solo papa... leyendo en los foros, y como vos decis, es un foro publico y digo lo que se me canta, siempre y cuando no viole las reglas del foro, te la vas a tener que comer.

[Drier]

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Revivo esto para dejar un par de videos q vi
Si pueden veanlos en HD

Terrible!!

[marto]

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Me parece interesante lo que dijiste facu, y sumado que lo dijiste respetuosamente.


Realmente ni se si esta nueva consola cumple mis expectativas, esperare un tiempo mas prolongado y no saldré corriendo a comprarlas como las anteriores

[Nicoiba]

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Un simple copy-paste de amazon:

J. Klem says:

Ok to start out, before the word's "fanboy" and "troll" get thrown around, I'm going to state my sources at the bottom of this. Everything that I will be comparing is going to be FACT (weather you what to believe it or not).

So let's start with the innards...

CPU >>
Xbox One = 8-core 64-bit x86 "custom" AMD CPU (rumored as a Jaguar AMD) @ 1.6GHz
PS4 = 8-core 64-bit x86 AMD CPU @ 1.6GHz

Winner = Here (not knowing enough on Xbox's CPU), we have a wash. Both get a point.

GPU>>
Xbox One = Is being compared to the Radeon HD 7790 (32MB eSRAM Embedded Memory, 102GB/s Embedded Memory Bandwidth, and 1.23 TFLOPS Peak Shader Throughput)
PS4 = is being compared to the Radeon 7870 (32 MB eSRAM Embedded Memory, 176GB/s Embedded Memory Bandwidth, and 1.84 TFLOPS Peak Shader Throughput)

Winner = PS4 is going to have to win here.

RAM>>
Xbox One = 8GB DDR3 RAM
PS4 = 8 GB GDDR5 RAM

Winner = PS4... Same amount of RAM, but GDDR5 is very noticeably faster.

Disk Drive>>
Xbox One = 6x Blu-ray player, 8x DVD player
PS4 = 6x Blu-ray player, 8x DVD player

Winner = Same thing... means a tie

Hard Drive>>
Xbox One = One SKU... 500GB Hard Drive
PS4 = One SKU... 500GB Hard Drive

Winner = This comes out to another wash

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Let's now look at accessories...

Controller>>
Xbox One = If it's not broke, don't fix it. Microsoft took what was good, and made it better. Rumble in the triggers (AWESOME!). Better D-pad (AWESOME!). More grip to sticks. Still uses AA Batteries?
PS4 = Not changing too much, but added a lot of new features... You get the Glow light indicator, which is apparently using Move tech. There's a touch pad in the middle. There's a speaker. There's a jack for a headset. Better Triggers. Better sticks.

Winner = This is probably the hardest to rank... there's no "clear" winner. I personally like the PS3 Controller over 360 (but that's just me). I REALLY like Microsoft's approach to the controller. I love the rumble triggers lol. But, I think PS4's controller could have HUGE potential. I think this comes down to personal preference... so I will give both a point

Camera>>
Xbox One = We get Kinect 2.0... This thing is high tech! 1920 x 1080 x 16 bbp 16:9 YUY2 @ 30fps (1080p). 4 mic array, senses your heat, see's in the dark, and can read your pulse by just looking at you! Also a 70degree Horizontal by 60degree Vertical Field of view.
PS4 = The Playstation 4 Eye... Not all the bells, and whistles. 1280 x 800 pixel x 2 @ 60fps. 85degree Field of view. & a 4 channel microphone array. PLUS you have to spend an extra $60 if you want one.

Winner = It's nice that the PS Eye can do 60fps (but not 1080p though). And the larger Field of View seems nice, but PS4's Eye is more of a nice webcam... Xbox's is, well... Kinect 2.0. The things it can do is actually impressive (but will people use it lol). But still... check a point for Xbox One

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Let's talk about Features

DRM>>
Xbox One = Microsoft's DRM is in the form of codes, a required internet connection. The games will basically **** be licensed to the buyer, and all games will be in digital form so that Microsoft can keep track of them.
PS4 = No DRM of any kind. When you buy a game... you OWN the game

Winner = PS4

Used Games>>
Xbox One = Games can be sold to "participating" retailers (ie, probably like Bestbuy, and Gamestop... "maybe Amazon"). So used games can't be sold through services like Ebay and Craigslist. The "but" is... BUT, it's all up to the publisher if you can sell it to Gamestop. So if EA says you can't sell Madden to Gamestop, you can't sell it. So **** "some" games can be sold used, and there's a LOT of hoops to jump though if you do.
PS4 = Used games are perfectly fine... you buy a game you can sell it, trade it, let someone borrow it, do whatever you want with it... after all, it's YOUR game

Winner = PS4

Connectivity>>
Xbox One>> Must be connected to the internet at least every 24 hours... every 1 hour if your signed in on a friend's console. Basically this means that it is "required" that you have internet connection in order to use the system.
PS4 = You want to play a single player game on a boat in the middle of the ocean... go right ahead. NO online is ever required

Winner = PS4

Game Recording>>
Xbox One = Has "game DVR"... not sure how long it records for, but you can take your recording, use software to edit it, and post on Twitch.
PS4 = It is always recording the last 15 minutes of game play. You can then take that content, edit it, and post it on youtube, Facebook, or Ustream.

Winner = Due to no real full knowledge of these 2 different ways of recording, it's hard to choice one without hands on time... so we'll give it a tie

Online Service>>
Xbox One = we have Live... and now Live is taking a page out PS Plus's book, and are now offering free games every month. But... Live is still required to play any online game.
PS4 = we have PS Plus... in my humble opinion, is a way better deal than Live. BUT now is required for online play on the PS4

Winner = If Sony wouldn't have made PS Plus required for online play, I would have gave it to PS4... but now, it's a tie.

Extra Features>>
Xbox One = Has Smartglass to use for an extra screen, and use for some cool features. "Smart match" actually sounds really cool. No Microsoft Points! 1000 friend lists. And don't forget about TV, TV, TV, TV, Sports, Sports, Sports, Sports! Say what you want, a lot of the features are really cool. (I would never use them, but they "are" pretty cool).
PS4 = Sony made sure to say... HEY, we have movies, and music, Netflix, Hulu, and Flixster too! Also, you'll be able to get payperview events on PS4. Sony also has some sort of "plan" for Sony movies on the PS4, but don't know much.

Winner = PS4 and Xbox One have a lot of the same features. Sony says Movies/Music... Microsoft says TV/Sports!.... That said, the features on Xbox, do seem kind of cool. With not knowing Sony's "plan", I think I will say Xbox wins this one

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Let's look at games
This is hard to monitor as a winner/non-winner... so I'm going to go based off who's got more exclusives and more new IP's... **** way I can think of to compare
This is as of me posting this... their may be more on either console announced throughout the week, but I can't see into the future.

Indie Games>>
Xbox One = They talked about how indies are sooo important, and then what do they show? Minecraft?!?! Then, moved on... are you serious? From everything I've seen, Microsoft doesn't care about Indies in the slightest. Plus, Indie developers CAN'T self publish.
PS4 = During first reveal... They brought out Jonathan Blow! Enough said. But they didn't stop there. During E3, they brought out a DOZEN indie developers including Supergiant Games with Transistor... and Outlast!!!! (so excited to play that on console!)... PLUS Indie developers CAN self publish.

Winner = PS4... They are pushing on this, and desirably so... Since the competition doesn't care.

Exclusive Titles>>
Xbox One = 19 ( 5 of which are Kinect games) (Microsoft said 15 exclusives planed)
PS4 = 30 (Sony said 40 exclusives planed)

Winner = PS4

Exclusive "New" IP's>>
Xbox One = 9 ( 2 of which in a Kinect game)
PS4 = 19

Winner = PS4
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For fun, I won't include these... but let's talk about the Games. Just because someone has more exclusives, doesn't necessarily mean that they are "better". This is a thing of preference... so it's hard to judge.
Sure, everyone is going to have their specific franchise that they love (ie Uncharted, Halo, Killzone, Gears of War, ect)... but let's look at some surprising exclusives for the consoles from the E3 conferences today

Xbox One>>>>>
Sunset Overdrive... This was the BIGGEST shock for me. Insomniac's next game is exclusive to Xbox One? WOW! Might have to be my most interested Xbox One new IP.
Ryse... Not sold, but color me intrigued. Doesn't seem to be a kinect **** game anymore, which is a plus.
Killer Instinct... meh for me (but I'm sure "YAY!" for some)
Project Spark... Microsoft's answer to LittleBigPlanet. I could easily see this being much larger than LittleBIgPlanet, and I think everyone should keep an eye on it.
Deadrising 3... I was honestly very impressed with this, and also super surprised it's an exclusive. Looks like they might have got rid of all the crap I hated in the other 2.
Titanfall... Probably the biggest third party Exclusive so far this generation by far... there's a lot of pressure on Respawn's shoulders. "I" was fairly impressed. But **** time will tell on how well it will do.

PS4>>>>>
Outlast... YAY!!! extremely happy to hear about this!
The Order 1886... I was extremely underwelmed with the trailer for this
The Dark Sorcerer... Graphics look AMAZING! BUT, I'd really like to see real gameplay.
Final Fantasy Verses (now 15)... I was upset with this. Final Fantasy is an RPG, not an action game. It does look quite epic, but I don't like this being a numbered inclusion to the Final Fantasy franchise.
Kingdom Hearts 3... I about had a heart attack from yelling, and jumping around when I heard this. For me, this announcement was EPIC!
Beyond Two Souls... ok... I know, I know... It's a PS3 game. But the more I see, the more I want this game! Looks mind blowingly good!

I know i said in the beginning about the about people's games... but I want to give a humble shout out to Killzone, and infamous... both looked amazing during E3.

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I would do looks.... But honestly, that's a perspective thing, so it's hard to rate with facts (personal opinion... I'd say PS4 by a hair). So...

Now the Biggy... Price

Price>>
Xbox One = $499
PS4 = $399

Obvious Winner = PS4

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WINNER IS>>>

Xbox One = 8
PS4 = 15

It just seems PS4 is the better console (so far) this generation. This is all based of what we know... But what actually happens, and what sells the most?
I guess that'll be left up to the consumers :-)
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Sources
http://n4g.com/news/1265772/editoria...-than-xbox-one
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/15...-specs-compare
http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-...ec-comparison/
http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/Li...Xbox_One_Games
http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation...tation_4_Games
http://majornelson.com/2013/06/06/de...vacy-features/
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gam...roller-1147221
http://reviews.cnet.com/game-accesso...-35766150.html

[gonzalo]

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PS4: podes revender juegos usados legalmente, podes jugar juegos de la PS3 sin problemas, y es más barata que la nueva XBOX.
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